Thank you for taking the time to share your feedback on the new features in the Amara subtitle editor, your voice is so important to help us find the best solutions!
Based on our users’ feedback, our engineering team has provided the temporary option to continue to use the Legacy Syncing behavior while we continue to improve.
To use the Legacy Syncing behavior option:
With the Amara Editor open and the project in the REVIEW STAGE:
You can update your preference on any project you have worked on that is in the Review stage.
Click "Using up/down to adjust timings" link on the left to open the dialog box.
Then click the “Use Legacy Syncing Behavior” button in the lower left.
This will set the Legacy Syncing Behavior as your default setting so that any new projects you begin will have this setting.
You can revert to the New Syncing behavior again by opening any video project in Review
-> Use Up/Down to adjust timings
-> Use New Syncing Behavior
The setting you select will remain the default for your editor view until you change it.
Thank you for being a part of our amazing community!
November 2019 Update
We are happy to share that the new features will be merging into the default Amara Editor next week. Thank you for all your feedback and great suggestions to help make creating captions and translations on Amara even more intuitive and efficient than ever! Keep sharing any ideas here or send them to us directly at email@example.com.
You may have noticed the new "Beta Editor" button on the Amara platform. That's because we are officially retiring our Legacy subtitle editor, and replacing it with some new features we hope will help you subtitle easier! We listened to feedback from our users and built some improvements into a beta version of the new editor, which will soon be incorporated into the main platform. We’ll incorporate all the new beta features into the editor soon.
Until then, you can switch to the beta editor for any of your subtitling work by clicking the “Beta Editor” button in the upper right of the editor screen, and switch back using the “Default Editor” button in the same spot.
Important: Please be sure to save your work each time before switching.
Let’s take a look at some of our new Beta Editor features!
The workflow steps in the upper right of the editor are now text links, which you can use to switch between typing, syncing, or reviewing your subtitles.
If a subtitle does not comply with the line and character limits listed in the info tray, the subtitle handles are highlighted in orange in the timeline. This warning can help you catch mistakes while you are syncing your subtitles.
The video player always shows synced subtitles at the current time in the video.
If you click an unsynced subtitle to start an edit, you will see the subtitle show up on the video player while you are editing. This gives you an extra point of reference within the context of the video.
The beta editor has larger subtitle endpoint “handles” that can be selected one at a time or together. With these handles, you can move two adjacent subtitle endpoints at the same time. If you hover over or select a subtitle handle, the handle will highlight light blue.
Note: To select two subtitle endpoints at the same time, the endpoints have to be exactly next to each other.
You can also nudge subtitle beginning and end points by selecting a handle and using your left and right arrow keys to adjust by small increments. We’ve also removed the “start now” and “end now” indicators that we used to show when syncing subtitles.
Help us continue to improve the new features by sharing your thoughts on this forum or emailing us at firstname.lastname@example.org.
Thank you, Rieann,
The new editor sounds very interesting, and I'm looking forward to trying it - but presently I still see the old editing options:
Also for videos added to the Captions Requested team (an old team). Could it be that the new beta editor is only available in the new teams?
In the excitement to share the news, the Forum post was just a bit early. The New Beta editor has just gone live this morning and should be available on any video opened in the editor, for all teams as well.
Looking forward to hearing what you and Amara users think of the new improvements!
Amara Support Team
I am disappointed there is no option to speed up or slow down the video - this is a standard thing on every other platform, and results in unnecessary inaudibles.
Thank you, Rieann: I've now tried the editor too. Nice except the arrow up arrow down shortcuts no longer work, at least for me (OS Linux Ubuntu, browser Firefox)
And thank you for your suggestion, Theresa. Rieann, do you think such a speed control could be implemented?
Big thanks to Sonia Ordóñez who authorized me to copy here the feedback she initially gave in a ticket:
"...The arrow down/up option no longer works for in/out times, as it does in the default editor. There are many shortcuts but none of them covers this extremely simple and convenient feature. (Please guys, bring it back.)
The nudge still works and the larger "handles" are definitely easier to use. However, that's not really a shortcut and the new option of selecting the handle and using left/right arrow keys (I was wrong, it does work!) does not allow for really accurate syncing.
The new Alt+S keyboard shortcut works to move the start/end of the subtitle, but if the "handles" are touching it also drags the adjacent subtitle, not leaving a gap in between, which very often might be necessary for accurate syncing. And again, this would replace a one key shortcut with two.
Colour warning ─ I really like that the handles are highlighted in orange in the timeline if there's a compliance issue. This is definitely an improvement and will help spot mistakes...."
Coloring in the timeline is going to be a useful improvement. Thanks.
I also noticed that while going through the subtitles by clicking Enter,
scrolling shifts a whole page up, instead of shifting one subtitle.
I don't know if it is by design, but this behavior can be a bit annoying when you want to see subsequent subtitles but they are separated by "page breaks".
Loved the added colors and the automatic rolling of the work area when we reach the last one and hit enter.
But please, bring the up and down arrows as commands for syncing the subtitles!
Also, I would suggest making the notes editable/removable.
Hi Claude and every one who has shared feedback for the new Beta features!
Our team is looking at each suggestion and we'll share more updates soon.
It seems we have a consensus on keeping the Up and Down arrows as commands for syncing.
Everyone seems to like the color coding for easier identification.
The specifics on Alt+S and nudge are very helpful!
The votes for speed controls are also appreciated and noted for future enhancements.
We will keep sharing updates, please keep sharing your feedback!
Thank you for launching this testing. It's really important to let users give their feedback, because the more try an update, the easier it is to find and remedy glitches. Or sometimes something looks like a glitch but is just a different simpler way that needs some explaining.
Hey all, I see directly conflicting opinions on the page break scrolling. Any more opinions on this one? If the opinions are totally split we'll keep it for now and maybe add an option to choose which behavior it should use later.
Csaba - "while going through the subtitles by clicking Enter, scrolling shifts a whole page up, instead of shifting one subtitle...this behavior can be a bit annoying when you want to see subsequent subtitles but they are separated by "page breaks".
Thais - "love...the automatic rolling of the work area when we reach the last one and hit enter."
We've got some conflicting feedback coming in about the up and down arrows for adjusting synced subtitles - please weigh in below to help us figure out what the best behavior is!
- please check out the attached screencast that shows a frequently reported issue with the non-beta behavior: once subtitles are synced, the down arrow moves the start point of the current subtitle, rather than setting the start point of the upcoming subtitle. It seems to confuse a lot of beginners, but curious what your thoughts are as superusers - this is the main reason we tried to "replace" the down and up arrows with the alt+s shortcut.
- if we just put the down-up arrows back, it wouldn't solve that confusion, although maybe it's not as big of a deal now that we have the undo function (ctrl+z)?
- one option is, we could add back a "punch in/out" shortcut that's different, to avoid confusion: maybe left/right arrows, or the letters "i" and "o"?
Other thoughts also welcome, of course :)
I am neutral about the page scrolling, but thank you for the video illustrating the arrow syncing issue.
Now using arrows to sync subtitles as the video is playing is mainly meant for first syncing, "on the fly". But when reviewing already synced subtitles, if you need to modify the time-codes for one, it is safer to search for the exact point where you want the start or end time code, stop the video and only then use the relevant time-coding arrow.
So the up and down arrows are extremely useful for the first syncing on the fly. Disabling them from the reviewing stage onward? Not sure it would be feasible and anyway, some people with extremely good reflexes might wish to do resyncing on the fly while reviewing, notwithstanding the risk of messups described in the video (should they sneeze or if the arrow command gets sluggish). So please keep the arrow commands, and maybe explain in the tut about the risk of using them for reviewing while the video is playing.
This being said, if there were a majority in favor of disabling these arrows, there are workarounds: they weren't working on my Mac with the old legacy editor, so I'd team with someone who could use them: I would do the transcript, then my team mate would do the syncing and we'd both do the reviewing. Hardly feasible with videos in teams with strict one person / one task workflows, though.
We're going to add back the down/up arrows for synced subtitles. Aside from warning users to stop the video before using down/up arrows for already-synced subtitles, we have one idea about how to avoid the case shown in the screenshot, anyone see any issues with this?
Some extra behavior for down and up arrows in the review stage:
if the cursor is closer to the next subtitle than the beginning of the current subtitle, DOWN will sync the start time of the upcoming subtitle.
If the cursor is closer to the end time of the previous subtitle than the end time of current subtitle, UP will sync the end time of the previous subtitle.